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  Getting a Bit Testy

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1 john 4:1) beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with god, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world.. if someone were alive in johns day, could they test an inspired expression?

  could they test an expression if it werent inspired?.

  are the governing body...... inspired?.

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  cha ching

  Haha, very good you two!

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  Getting a Bit Testy

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1 john 4:1) beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with god, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world.. if someone were alive in johns day, could they test an inspired expression?

  could they test an expression if it werent inspired?.

  are the governing body...... inspired?.

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  cha ching

  1 John 4:1) Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world.

  If someone were alive in John’s day, could they “test” an inspired expression?

  Could they “test” an expression if it weren’t “inspired”?

  Are the Governing Body...... “inspired”?

  Can we “test” them?
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  Retirement complex for older JW's to be built

  by moomanchu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is literally almost in my backyard.. they are using a local contractor, not jw volunteers.. http://www.mcall.com/business/mc-jehova-witness-retirement-home-20140205,0,2445692.story.

  21 f. thursday, feb. 6, 20146:49 am est .

  retirement complex for jehovah's witnesses in salisbury townshipnine-month project to employ workers from 20 trades.

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  A new way to raise money.

  Next thing yiou know, it will be a franchise....
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  Anyone else having a bad few weeks??

  by quellycatface in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i seem to have a really crap couple of months with stuff going wrong.

  people being nasty to me.

  i saw a neighbour of mine today (who i fell out with 18 months ago), to whom i've since apologised for losing my temper with, but today, when i smiled at her, she looked at me daggers!!!

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  cha ching

  Hi Quelly,

  So sorry, yep, it can be a bit disconcerting!

  Bruja is so right, but it's hard to get our brain there! It takes practice... just talking to people helps..

  By the way, does she know you are not a "witness" yet? Perhaps that's under her skin? Maybe if you told her you 'left' ????

  We all need friends & good times, and we can always start with ourselves, being a good friend to ourselves, believing in us...

  hugs... cha ching
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  What are the feelings/thoughts within 24-48 hours of exposure to an undeniably true (for you) TATT?

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  many of us know where we were during 9/11 or when john kennedy and martin luther king were killed.. it seems that when faced with ttatt, real truth is dismissed as "ol' light" or "an imperfect group of men" but from what i gather, many of you, at some point, were hit with a component of ttatt that shattered all of those cliches that allowed you to brush off the obvious reality that something was very wrong.

  some of you may remember the hours following your earliest exposures to an undeniably true tatt.

  did you zone completely out?

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  cha ching

  607 burst the bubble, but when I read the reasoning in the Finished mystery book (Page 230)

  The Finished Mystery, page 230 (While explaining the meaning/ interpretation/ “expectation” re: what the “winepress” in Rev 14:20 meant) “By the space of a thousand and {six} TWO hundred furlongs – This can not be interpreted to refer to the 2100 mile battle line of the world war. A furlong, or stadium, is not a mile and this is without the city whereas the battle line is within the city. See Rotherham’s translation. A stadium is 606 ¾ English ft.; 1200 stadii are …….. mi., 137.9 The mileage from the Scranton to Hoboken Terminal is shown in time tables as 143.8 and this is the mileage charged to passengers, but in 1911, at an expense of $12,000,000 the Lackawanna Railroad completed it’s famous cut-off, saving 11 miles of the distance. From the day the cut-off was completed, the trainmen have been allowed 11 miles less than the time table shows, or a net distance of ….. 132.8 Hoboken Ferry to Barclay StreetFerry, New York is ………..….2.0 Barclay Street Ferry to Fulton Ferry, NY is 4,800 feet or…... 0.9 Fulton Ferry, NY to Fulton Ferry, Brooklyn, is 2,000 feet …..0.4 Fulton Ferry, Brooklyn to Bethel is 1,485 feet or, ……………....0.3 Shortest distance where the winepress was trodden by the Feet Members of the Lord, Whose guidance and help alone made this volume possible (John 6:60, 61; Matt 20:11) … . Miles…. 137.9”

  I just started crying and crying and crying.

  I saw how "they"... those honest, upright, trustworthy, examples of Christian uprightness so easily, without conscience had been twisting, convolutingly using numbers to any end that they might need.... over and over throughout history..

  I just cried.
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  Don't Question GOD! (aka the governing body)

  by sunny23 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  did a simple search in the wt library for words like, "question," "questioning," "doubts/ing,"obey," "understand.".

  these are listed in order of occurence oldest to newest (up to 2012 as my library is 2012 version).

  "if we have love for jehovah and for the organization of his people we shall not be suspicious, but shall, as the bible says, 'believe all things,' all the things that the watchtower brings out"qualified to be ministers (1955) p.156.

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  Haha Faithful Witness! That makes it simple...

  JW's don't need to understand it, they just need to be ready to OBEY
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  Did Prince Just Say Goodbye to the Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by ithinkisee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://allied.blogspot.com/2007/02/prince-says-goodbye-to-jehovahs.html.

  any music fan who watched the super bowl last night could rightly walk into work this morning and say, "did you see the bears and colts play football during prince's concert?".

  (reprinted from the link above).

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  cha ching

  thx!
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  Did Prince Just Say Goodbye to the Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by ithinkisee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://allied.blogspot.com/2007/02/prince-says-goodbye-to-jehovahs.html.

  any music fan who watched the super bowl last night could rightly walk into work this morning and say, "did you see the bears and colts play football during prince's concert?".

  (reprinted from the link above).

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  cha ching

  So......

  I was just wondering, IS he disfellowshipped?

  or is he just gone? and not one? Anyone have an article? I have looked, but not found anything conclusive or recent.

  thx....

  cha ching!
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  What is with the WT obsession with King David??

  by BU2B in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it seems like at least once a month he is brought up as a good example in the study wt.

  it seems like he is given more praise than jesus.

  have you noticed this?

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  cha ching

  They need the rank and file to equate the governing body with David.

  They need to downplay David’s errors, and create excuses for some very terrible things he did.

  Why?

  Because the governing body, anointed & 'chosen' like King David, “deserve special treatment” ….. no matter what they do.
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  The only TEST allowed. . .is the test of LOYALTY in others

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what you are not permitted to see, examine, test or question is where the magician hides his deceptions so the magic may be passed off as real.. tyranny commences with certain assumptions which are not only unchallenged, but which may not be allowed a challenge.. these assumptions become, in effect, articles of faith on the one hand, and tests of loyalty on the other.. accepting the untested leads to magic-thinking.. .

  in italy during world war ii, the fascist leader mussolini was said to be "always right.

  " the brutish dictator magically knew somehow.. no counter-examples were permitted to be printed, spoken, discussed or debated without immediate punishments.. in japan, the emperor was said to actually be a god.

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  cha ching

  "Where you find a person's very THOUGHTS made a crime, you will find tyranny.

  When loyalty is exhalted above proof and inquiry you will find tyranny."

  " However, we cannot hope to acquire a good relationship with Jehovah if we ignore those whom Jesus has appointed to care for his belongings. Without the assistance of “the faithful and discreet slave,” we would neither understand the full import of what we read in God’s Word nor know how to apply it. " Examining the Scriptures Daily 2012 Mar 4

  Avoid questioning the counsel (doctrine) that is provided by God's visible organization. Some who point out that the organization has had to make some adjustments (to doctrine) before, and so they argue: "This shows that we have to make up our own mind on what to believe." This is independent thinking. It is dangerous!" Watchtower 1983 Jan 15 p.22

  ***g78 8/22 pp. 3-4 Do Others Do Your Thinking? *** Tricks of Propagandists Symbols

  "Tyranny of authority—all such tactics are marshaled to assail your mind and take it by storm. Sound evidence, reasoning, logic?

  s deadliest foes! He therefore attempts to rout reason and stimulate passion. "

  After reading Animal Farm, I can see the WTBS uses the same kinds of tactics.

  'We are your leaders, we are here to help you.... How dare you speak against us.'

  cha ching....